The latest edition of the Catalyst Podcast features an interview with Kay Warren, co-founder of Saddleback Church and best-selling author of Dangerous Surrender. In the interview Kay discusses leadership, her role over the years with Saddleback, the realities of leading a church, tips on staying grounded, women in leadership, and the idea of balance. We also catch up with Carlos Whittaker on his crazy adventure driving his family across the country in their 2005 Hyundai, and realities of car trouble has them stranded in Gallup, New Mexico.

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